Thank you to Liana Laverentz, author of Thin Ice and reviewer Cynthia Murphy for a wonderful, in depth interview!

It took 17 years to get
Thin Ice published, and it has definitely found a large audience.  Why do you think traditional publishers passed on this novel? 
Because it didn’t fit into the parameters of what they thought would be a commercial success.  It’s not part of a trend, it’s longer than most romances, it features a sports hero--I was told women are annoyed enough by the amount of time their men watch sports, they don’t want to read about a character who reminds them of the time or reason their men aren’t paying attention to them--and it was too “linear.”  Meaning it didn’t have enough diverse plot threads in it to hold a reader’s interest.  The focus was too tight for a book of that length. 

What inspired you to write this story, and how did you stay motivated in spite of the rejection?
 
I think at the time, I was getting rejection letters that said my stories didn’t have enough conflict.  I’ll admit I was confused about what constituted conflict in a story back then.  So I started with the conflict.  What could cause the most conflict between a woman and a man in a romance?  I came up with a woman in a healing profession and a man in a violent one.  It didn’t start out to be a story about domestic violence, it just sort of grew into one as I learned more about the characters and tried to personalize the main conflict.  In the end, Emily’s internal conflict was about personal safety, and Eric’s was simply his longing for a home and family. 

How did I stay motivated?  Well, the motivation came and went over the years, as I worked on other projects, but Thin Ice has always been my favorite, and so I kept coming back to it, and each time I revised it, I would fall in love with it all over again.

How did the story change with the many rewrites over the years? 
Mostly the external elements changed, as the times changed, but the characters grew and deepened as well.  That came from getting to know them so well through the many re-writes.  I just kept adding layers to their psyches—and then I had to strip it down again, to keep the focus on the main internal conflicts.  To write a believable character, you need to know everything you possibly can about them, but only what’s pertinent to the story can appear in the story. 

As for the external elements, nobody had cell phones when I first wrote Thin Ice.  I had to add them in.  For another, Emily needed a very large car for a special reason, and they’d stopped making the car I had chosen for her—a Crown Victoria Station Wagon.  I had to go shopping online for another big car, her Suburban.  That was fun, including a friendly disagreement with a car aficionado friend, who insisted she needed a Jeep Grand Cherokee, because it was classier.  The NHL also reorganized several times over the years, and each time I had to re-write the book to reflect the addition of new teams and re-structuring of the conference divisions.  The hockey team Eric plays for is in Minnesota.  When I originally wrote Thin Ice, the North Stars were the only NHL team in Minnesota.  So I created the St. Paul Saints, to be their arch-rivals.  But by the time I was sending out the manuscript a second time, the North Stars had moved to Dallas.  By the last time I re-wrote it, the Minnesota Wild was in St. Paul, where my original team, the St. Paul Saints, had originated.  So I had to go back to the original concept of two teams in Minnesota who were arch-rivals, but this time my team was the Minneapolis Saints, instead of the St. Paul Saints.  The NHL had also added several new Stanley Cup champions over the years, and so that had to be re-written as well.  Now I understand the St. Paul Saints are a baseball team. 

There is a glitch in the book that I totally missed, and I am still waiting for someone to notice and write to me about it.  I’ll have to come up with a special prize for them when they do J.  I remember the day I realized it.  But it was too late.  The book was already out.

You’ve included a dark element with the emphasis on the long-term effects of domestic violence.  Why did you include such a dark topic in a romance novel? 
I like to make my stories as real as possible.  Darkness is a part of life.  Once I started research into the subject, I found there were many ways to present the same conflict through several characters, since each person’s experience with and reaction to domestic violence is different.  Overall, I wanted to say that domestic violence can be found in any type of family, rich or poor, and can happen to any woman, educated or uneducated, young or old, homebody or career woman.  Domestic violence knows no social boundaries.

You are very sensitive with your treatment of the topic of domestic violence.  Is this a subject that is close to your heart? 
It has become so through my research, but didn’t start out that way.  I am now more aware of the signs and ramifications of abuse in a family, and can spot abusive situations in a heartbeat, but did the story arise out of an abusive situation of my own?  If so, it was subconsciously.  A few years ago, I happened across my journals, written while I was in high school, and was of course obsessed with boys.  As I read the entries, and all the heartbreak in them, because this boy or that one didn’t call or show up or didn’t treat me right in some way, I realized how lucky I was that they dumped me, because with my new awareness, I could spot several abusive situations in the making. 

I figure must have had some kind of internal radar, even then, that sent out signals that I was not the kind of girl who would stand for such treatment for long, and that was why they moved on to more amenable ground.  Abusers look for victims, and I apparently wasn’t enough of one to keep their interest.  I’ve always had a mind of my own in relationships.  But I never associated that with being dumped so often until recently J. 

I think my interest in the subject came from always having a soft spot for the underdog in any situation, and what is more oppressive than living with an abuser?  As women, we’re socialized to go along to get along, to be people pleasers, to put relationships first above all things--including ourselves--and when our relationships aren’t working, we tend to look to ourselves for the solutions, thinking there must be something wrong with us in that we can’t make this relationship work.  This is exactly the kind of mindset an abuser looks for in a partner and takes advantage of by exploiting that self-doubt, and convincing her that yes, “she” is the problem, and if she would only do xyz (lose weight, dress better, keep the kids quiet, keep the house clean, stop talking to her friends and family, have dinner ready on time, be less demanding, be more sexually available, etc.) the relationship would be just fine.   But it doesn’t work.  Abusers are broken people, and we can’t fix what we didn’t break.

Emily and Eric are well-crafted characters.  How did you develop such strong characters and their backgrounds?
By spending so much time with them, and getting to know them inside and out.  The more time I spent with them, the more layers they revealed to me.  Emily and Eric are as real to me--maybe even more so--than many of the people in my life.  Most people don’t open themselves up to others as completely as Emily and Eric did to me.  In our hurry, hurry, get it done now culture of instant gratification, we don’t always take the time to get to know the people in our lives—or in the case of writers, our characters--as well as we could.  It makes for a lot of missed opportunities, because getting to know the people in our lives, bonding, making memories, is what it’s all about.  At the end of your life, it’s not going to be about how much money you made or how much stuff you acquired, but whose life you touched, and who touched yours.

Thin Ice
is very different from your other books.  Do you plan to write more novels like it in the future?
Oh, definitely.  My other novels were targeted to a certain market, because the market was limited at the time, and I wanted to sell a book.  Now, with the advent of e-publishers and small presses, I can write the books I want to write, the books that are in my heart, like Thin Ice was and is, and I have no doubt I will be able to find a home for them.

If you could give your book to one person, who would it be and why? 
I would give it to a woman who has been abused, or is being abused, to let her know she’s not alone and there is hope.  In most cases, women who are being abused don’t even know they are being abused.  Abuse comes in many forms—including physical, mental, emotional, spiritual, financial, and sexual.  Most abused women are conditioned to think what they are experiencing is normal, and due to the isolation abusers impose on their victims, aren’t exposed to the kind of information that would let them know otherwise.  A book like Thin Ice might open her eyes to the fact that something is wrong in her relationship with her partner, and set her on a path of looking for more information.  She may not choose to change her situation, but I would much rather that she consciously make that choice out of awareness, rather than stay in her situation out of fear and ignorance.

What is your writing process?
I write the first draft without stopping, so I know how it ends, and can work toward that end while I’m editing.  I also write in layers.  First I write the dialogue, straight through, until the book is done.  Then I go back and decide who has the most at stake in each scene, and write the scene from that character’s point of view.  Then I add in the stage directions (who crossed the room, slammed the door, or gripped the pen too tightly, etc.).  Then I go back and make sure I have the five senses covered, and then I go back and add in clues, or foreshadowing.  <> 

Last, but not least, I go in and tighten the focus, cut out every word that doesn’t need to be there, and pretty it all up.  It’s the last part that gets really intense for me.  I try to do what I call “hold the whole book in my head” at one time, and while I may be at the bank or grocery store or school function in body, my mind and spirit are at home with my characters.  It’s during these times that people perceive me as vacant or spacey J.  The lights are on, but nobody’s home.

What advice would you give new authors? 
If you don’t write your stories, nobody’s going to do it for you.  Don’t wake up one day and wish you’d had the courage to follow your dreams.  Do it now.  Make the time, and be persistent in your efforts.  Polite, but persistent.  Never give up.  Ever.  If it’s important to you, then find way to do it today.  Don’t put it off until you have the time, because you will never have enough time in your life to get everything you want to do, done.  It just won’t happen. 

So make time for you.  Make your writing time sacred.  And when your behind is not in the chair, take classes, join a critique group, join a writer’s group, and partner up with a friend who supports and encourages you, and will help to keep you on track. 


To help people figure out how to do all of this, I host a discussion the first Thursday of every month at the Long and Short Reviews Yahoo Loop on Finding Your Balance.   To r
ead my articles on Finding Your Balance go to http://longandshortarchives.blogspot.com/2008/01/article-finding-your-balance-pt-1.html and http://longandshortarchives.blogspot.com/2008/02/article-finding-your-balance-pt-2.html then mark your calendar to join us at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LongAndShortRomanceReviews/?yguid=306787988

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